Meyer and Medievalism

Editor: Concerning Frank Meyer, I am still not convinced. Perhaps I can explain why. It is a matter of his view of history, and the interpretation that he gives to the medieval period, which is that the person emerged in a meaningful way only through the failure of church and empire to reestablish some cosmological unity. I find that I fundamentally disagree with making as one of the two positive legacies of Christendom its political and, eventually, spiritual breakdown. I acknowledge that, in the same article, Mr. Meyer says very complimentary things about the medieval philosophical tradition, but I believe his historical argument outweighs this positive note.  

I dispute that the person had not already emerged well before the dispute between church and empire. Except for very specific doctrinal disputes, the presumption before the eleventh century was one of an essential unity, though each authority had its own sphere. It is not the cosmological unity that Mr. Meyer describes, but it was different from the 'tension' that prevailed later. For what it is worth, in medieval Catholic doctrine it was only through the universal monarchy of the pope that the right of the people to cast off tyrants was justified. In other words, there was still the presumption of supreme power in both the political and spiritual spheres (whether this is actually orthodox or not is somewhat beside the point at the moment), but this presumption of unity nonetheless lent credibility to arguments for liberty based in natural law. Also, in law well before then, there were legal protections for the person unique to the West already promulgated by Justinian, and in Byzantium I believe that the person and the idea of the person, did flourish in the midst of strong, complementary hierarchies of church and empire. That is, perhaps, an unusual view, but I think that it has some backing.

At the same time, it is noteworthy that one no less than Richard Weaver regarded the separation of church and empire into rivals, the full expression of this 'tension' between them, rather than as their theoretical roles as complementary forces uniting Christendom, as one of the great calamities of Western history and one of the turning points in the great civilizational decline of the West, whence the divisions that gradually encouraged, as he argued, the dissent of Ockhamism and the greater calamity and dissolution of the Reformation. I would suspect that Mr. Meyer would characterize the Reformation in a rather different way. If the West was already losing its earlier, original character by the eleventh century, as Weaver saw it, then I can only assume that he and Mr. Meyer are in basic disagreement about the definition of the West, in which case I am probably much more in sympathy with Mr. Weaver's narrative.

This all relates to the debate over tradition in that Mr. Meyer's story of the West, while coherent on its own terms, does seem to see the source of the political and spiritual dissolution of Christendom not simply as the reality of what occurred but the desirable process that created space for the person, so that value of the medieval and early modern Christian tradition seems to lie in large part in its temporal failure. Connected to this historical argument, I am supposing that there must be a hostility to hierarchy in the assumption that the person only really emerges when hierarchical orders fail. If that is correct, then this is antithetical to traditional Christian doctrine of various confessions concerning the nature of the human person, in which personality is restored and revealed through hierarchical progression and a role within a hierarchy. I hope you do not mind my dwelling on this subject, and I'd be glad to read any comments you might have, but something from our exchanges was still nagging me. Daniel Larison


The Editor Responds: There are many issues raised here and our readers have probably had more than enough of this debate. Much of the remaining differences seem to be historical questions of fact. Mr. Larison notes there was a tension between church and state, as Meyer put it, but Mr. Larison sees a "different" tension. Yet, "separate spheres" sounds more like Meyer's tension than a medieval "cosmological unity." The pope's presumed authority to justify revolution does not clarify the presumption of supreme power issue, since he clearly did not actually have such a power, ever, as far as the editor is aware. And the question of orthodoxy does seem to the point rather than otherwise. The pope's authority was moral suasion, except where his power could be exercised. He could excommunicate but he could not enforce even that in this world. Again, it is historically questionable whether the West was losing its "original character" by the 11th Century. What was the original character--the radical separation between church and state of the pre-Constantine period, the relative state dominance of the Constantine empire period, the following radical feudal decentralization of both church and state until the 11th Century early beginnings of centralization (first, of Europe in the face of the Muslim threat and, next, of national state centralization in that wake), and, then, of the resulting re-unification of church and state of the post-Reformation period in the new nation-states, or what? Richard Weaver's concern could as easily be seen as over the decline of what Meyer called the "tension," and the slide into the re-unification of power of state over church within the several European nations starting in the 11th Century. In Meyer, there is not an opposition to hierarchies, only to a single hierarchy with all power in one place--which is why he liked the medieval period that did divide power, but the United States even more because it divided it more, in the interests of individuals without being hostile to churches and communities. As Lord Acton noted, England was the last place where medieval institutions survived, long enough to transfer them to America (especially to the middle colonies), before the rise of the state in Europe and its attempts to destroy the tension.

 

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